If anyone has seen Sports Center, ARod's Deal Tops the news. __________________ Needless to say, there will be another strike in Major League Baseball in 2002. This is insane. How can any team justify paying one player what some teams pay an entire roster in a season? It just isn't fair. The Yankees are the perfect example of money buying championships. Now my beloved Indians are desparately trying to hold on to one of the best hitters in the game in Manny Ramirez, but because Manny saw how much ARod was going for (and how much he was offered by the Rangers), he is demanding more and more. The Indians offered him $119M over 7 years with bonuses, but he still turned it down. Rumors are that he still wants to play in Cleveland, and the fans there love him, so why the hell wouldn't you accept an offer like that? Now the Red Sox look like they are going to end up with Ramirez, unless the Indians can pull something together to bring him back.  __________________ but here is an example...When Saint Louis made it back to the division championship in '97 they drew huge crowds, the remodeled the stadium, and new owners came in... In '98 Mark McGwire came drawing 30+ average each game, 50 tops... They had a 300 million budget for players... and were losing money... How Da **** can one team buy 1 player, mind you it is 10 years, but this is way out of proportion... There were days when teachers made more than pro sports players. Our society is in a **** hole. Pull out your heads people, stop paying the premuim... I love baseball and football and waterpolo (Eruh?) but lets keep it reasonable. Sorry for the rant. __________________ $252 freakin' dollars over 10. That's just amazing. Well, I guess they figure Bush'll come to the rescue if it doesn't work out...maybe bomb everyone else in the American league, assuring them of a spot in the WS.  Why baseball and hockey haven't been able to implement a salary cap like the NBA or the NFL have is beyond me. Why the NBA hasn't been able to put in a hard cap is also bewildering. Don't these leagues realize that disparity ruins sports? Baseball is boring enough that having the same 6 teams (give or take a key injury) is BOOOOOOOOOORING??! What pisses me off the is self-fulfilling prophecy. Owners strong-arm cities into new buildings because they don't have the revenue to pay salaries. Then they go out and spend more than what the stadium can possibly bring in. Then they bitch for a new stadium. It's a neverending cycle. There is little I find more repugnant than a city losing a pro franchise, basically because it's one entity functioning in a way no other business would, and expecting taxpayers to pick up the tab...oh, hold on, I guess the government works that way too... __________________ The only sport that I really enjoy watching anymore is the NFL. Because of the salary cap, most teams are equally talented, therefore, you have no idea who will win each weekend (Now, if my Browns could just capitalize on that!). I lost total interest in the NBA after the strike a few years back. I do enjoy watching hockey, but these expansion teams have really scattered the talent in the league. I'm going to go see a Columbus Blue Jackets game over Christmas break, which should be interesting because the only games I have ever seen in person have been in Joe Louis Arena.__________________ Wanna hear the funniest thing you'll hear this week? Check out the live feed from KJR-AM up in Seattle. Looks like they have a new hate on for A-Rod, and when you get a Seattelite pissed, they can get pretty creative...they're taking live calls now (10:42 PST). It makes for some gooooooooood listenin'!__________________ Only sports I watch any more are college ones - football and March Madness, baby. Baseball started to bore me when the Yankees and the Braves decided to start winning the World Series every year, and I've never liked all the stupid rules in the NBA. What is it with no zone D? Keep it NCAA, man.__________________ As long as people keep shelling out the money to go to see these overpaid prima donnas, it will continue to get out of hand. 30,000 people don't pay to go see a teacher teach, so unfortunately we will never live in a society that rewards true heroes.I was a die hard Cub Fan for 20+ years and finally had enough of supporting a team that raked in money for a loser every year. The only pure form of sports anymore is a few college sports and amateur programs. __________________ I certainly agree that sports salaries are a bit wacky, but I think the most absurd contracts come in the entertainment industry. Yes, I know most people now consider Sports to be an aspect of entertainment, but you know what I mean . . . music and movies. I especially believe this to be true when one looks at the relative merits of the "entertainers" in the fields. While athletes are becoming better and better at what they do, the quality of music and movies seems to be tanking (Of course this is just my opinion and I'm sure many disagree) . . . but I can certainly say this . . . I feel much better spending the money to go to a sporting event than I feel shelling out $9.50 to see a typical movie or $40 or so to see a typical concert.__________________ I agree with you Butch...when someone makes 20 million for a piece of crap movie...and a pro athlete makes 25.2 mill for playing 162 baseball games....i would rather pay the price to see the baseball game.__________________ know what all?as much as i agree that they are getting paid way too much....... if you were in thier shoes and offerd 25 million to play a game, damn right you would take every penny of it. i cant blame the altheletes, blame the damn comsumer driven egotistical, masoginitic society for that bull**** __________________ THS I know what you are saying, but thats bull**** that the players are innocent in all this. Most of them are greedy bastards who will break the hearts of millions of people just to get a materialistic possesion like a private jet or a skybox. Its true these things are nice but if you are getting 15 mil a year already you can buy that **** yourself. Thankfully there are a few players out there who still believe in being loyal to a team and a city(ie Sammy Sosa) even if they are being put up on the trading block like a piece of meat.F ARod, F KBrown, FRClemens. I'm out... __________________ It makes me sick to live in a world where grown men are paid $25 million a year to play a game. I have always hated baseball. I remember in the 3rd grade when they tried to teach it to us during recess, I couldn't understand why most of us were just standing around waiting instead of actually doing something.I have no respect for baseball players. Some of them may be in great athletic shape, but they are being paid to sit on their asses for half the game during half the year. Of all the positions, pitchers should be commanding the highest saleries since they are involved the most in the game and exerting the greatest amount of energy. Even still, they shouldn't be making these gross amounts of money. I might be more understanding if baseball was a strenuous sport, but it's not. You've got one team standing around in the field and one team sitting around in the dugout just waiting for something to happen. The once in a while a ball goes in play and maybe 2 or 3 of those 9 guys on the field have to actually do something for a few seconds. Then they go back to standing around. Blame goes to everyone. It's the players' fault for being greedy. It's the managements' fault for being willing to spend so much. Most of all, it's the fans' fault for willing to watch these bastards do nothing but play a boring game. __________________ I agree with almost all of that but I have to say Baseball is not boring at all. For those who don't like baseball to begin with it might be boring but for fans like myself it is not. I am disgusted with the money that these primadonnas are making now but I think the sport of baseball is not at fault. Baseball has been through a lot since it was first played in the late 1800's. From then until now it has reflected the state that this country has been in. Right now it shows that we as Americans are spoiled and money hungry. That I agree with. But baseball is not boring. __________________ nah nah nah,players are paid that much because teams are willing to pay that much. If a team isn't willing to pay that much, they won't. Many players have been shunned because of their asking price. Sure, they maybe be a little greedy with the money they ask for, but if a team says "sure why not", then the player is not to blame for taking it. Keep in mind, the owners make hella lot more money than the player does, and he's the one deciding to jack up ticket prices to buy a better player who'll make the team better so as to increase the fan base, thereby multiplying revenue. If there is a strike, its basically billionairs versus millionairs. I go for the millionairs. __________________ If you have a problem with it, dont go to the games. You dont have to avoid the broadcast, unless youre a Nielsen person/family . Eventually they'll get the picture through reduced gate and lower ratings. That's all you can do.Whining doesnt help anything. __________________ With over 260 million people living in the U.S. and who knows how many people live in Cuba, Ruerto Rico and other nearby countries, you mean you can't find at least 100 really good baseball players to work for, let's say a million a bucks a year? This is not a high skilled job, folks.If the average kid started practicing at 7 years old, and devoted the next 11 or 12 years at being really good, couldn't he have a decent career for the rest of his life? I just don't understand it!__________________ Quote:
yes i completly agree that they are __________________ We are so screwed by the Chargers in San Diego. It isn't even funny. The franchise is paid out of the city coffers if no one shows up for the game. This particular brand of theft is called a ticket guarantee. The franchise has no motivation to do well. They have a solid grip on last place. We have the worst money grubbing excuse for a quarterback in professional sports. Mr. Leif chooses not to play because of an injured wrist, then goes golfing instead. I wish they would just leave. We would be better off without them. I’m hoping that the XFL puts a team in San Diego.__________________ Quote:
That's laughable. They're just part of the machine! Do you have any idea what the process is for a budding high school basketball player? I mean, the whole "Blue Chips" movie aside (i.e., cars, jobs for relatives, etc.), highly regarded players are funneled into shoe contracts, are sold to the highest bidder (i.e., college) by their amatuer or high school coach, and have agents knocking at the door. And that's before the whole college machine chews them up and spits them out. The NCAA system, as it stands, is a total crock. I know you only said a few college sports, but this is just one of my pet peeves. People who think college sports are in some way more noble or ethical are either deluded or are uninformed. __________________ Quote:
Wow! You've never played competitive baseball, have you? Do you know how many kids have started playing baseball at 7 and played seriously through high school and then even went on to college to maybe play D1 baseball . . . and then still couldn't even get a minor league contract?? Baseball, more than any other sport except for maybe hockey, requires more training to be competitive at the professional level - why do you think you do not hear about a ton of kids jumping directly from HS to the pros? How about how many kids you hear skipping a couple of years of college to jump directly to the pros? Hmmm . . . still none, huh? That might be because you can count on only one hand the number of professional baseball players who did not play in the minor leagues. Oh well . . . this is a bit off topic for the thread, but I couldn't keep my pie hole shut about it! And as for the fella who was saying that baseball is obscenely boring . . . ummmm . . . yer a Communist, aren't ya? JK [Edited by Butch on 12-12-2000 at 11:54 AM] __________________ Quote:
So says a man bitter about the brevity of his own baseball career. Listen, just cuz you couldn't cut it, boy, doesn't mean it's that hard! Hell, if I wasn't such a good baller, I coulda made single A ball, at least! I got a freakin' rocket for an arm! [Edited by pennypinch on 12-12-2000 at 11:52 AM] __________________ It looks like Ramirez just signed on with the Red Sox for $20 million a year __________________ Quote:
Oh yeah . . . I remember seeing you throw while we were playing Rodeoball . . . hehe . . . great sport . . . first thing that came to mind . . . ROCKET!  __________________ Quote:
Well, that's because I was throwing the ol' eephus pitch. Perhaps you should refer to the missiles I was flingin' around during Canadians practice. I had some pretty serious zip on those deep outs...oh, I mean on the blue kiwis! Hey, are you coming to Mexico in March... Sorry, personal post. E-mail me, goddamn it! Mavi forum |
Tuesday, June 12, 2007
Pro Sports (BULL ****)
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