A vote for Nader is a vote for change

It's not a vote fer G.W. and it won't affect Gore's chances[of losing] check out this article :0) __________________ The same can be said for any of the third party candidates. I think you all know one in particular I am referring to. __________________ uh, Teddy Roosevelt? __________________ ...ummm... yeah... riiiiiight.... __________________ That's really an interesting article. Our whole system of voting with popular vote then electoral vote seems like such a strange way of doing things. I think it would be great for Nader to get funding and a role in the debates as well; he certainly didn't deserve to be blocked from entering the first debate even as a spectator. After reading this article, I think I'd still vote for Gore, though; were the election not this close, I'd feel confident in voting for Nader, but it's just too close. The possible good feeling I'd get in seeing Nader get funding and entrance to the debates in the future, (if there is a future) would quickly be shot down if Nader voters led to a Bush administration. By the way, I'm taking names now for who will flee with me to Toronto in the event that Bush gets elected - leave your name and I'll add you to the list ;p __________________ fleeing to canada in case of anything bad happening in the states? you certainly do sound a lot like a democrat... ProMinx __________________ Quote: Originally posted by ProMinx fleeing to canada in case of anything bad happening in the states? you certainly do sound a lot like a democrat... ProMinx Ouch, that's gotta hurt. __________________ Until something drastic changes to change the currently BROKEN election system we have... I mean come on! Is this the BEST that America has to offer - Bush and Gore??!!?? The Nader vote is going to be all the Dems not wanting to vote for Gore, and then guess who sneaks in the back door? So let's turn this in to what it really means... a vote for Nader = a vote for Bush, because we all know DAMN well that Nader isn't going to get more electoral votes than you can count on the hand of a leper. -------------------------------------------------------- Actually - i hadn't read the article until after I posted the above... after reading the article... I still say it's a wasted vote. I feel my vote is wasted anyway. It's so nice to know that before you even cast your vote and the polls are open for another 4-5 hours your electoral votes are in already. The whole electoral voting principle is outdated and should be dismembered. That system was built around ballot counting technologies that had obstacles that have since been overcome... LONG AGO!! I thought (hoped) things were going to change when all the baby-boomers got of age to make a serious difference in the political/social (un)consciousness (sp) of this country. But here they are, those ex-hippies- now they're the ones in power and look what changes are happening. ---NOTHING---!! They are promoting and soliciting the same things that their political leaders did that they so vehemently rallied against in their youth. Bunch of phucking hypocrites. I abhor the baby boomers. [Edited by phlick on 10-14-2000 at 11:47 PM] __________________ Quote: Originally posted by phlick Actually - i hadn't read the article until after I posted the above... after reading the article... I still say it's a wasted vote. I feel my vote is wasted anyway. Quote: Originally posted by renots whining ain't goin to achieve anything; Vote and U get to scare the **** out of politicians and watch them march to a new beat. It can be pretty fun actually ;0) __________________ If you vote for Nader, you are not responsible for the mistakes of whichever candidate does win...so you can ridicule those who did vote for whichever candidate is elected, and we all know that if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch about the outcome...so a vote for Nader is the next best thing. ProMinx __________________ Quote: Originally posted by ProMinx If you vote for Nader, you are not responsible for the mistakes of whichever candidate does win...so you can ridicule those who did vote for whichever candidate is elected, and we all know that if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch about the outcome...so a vote for Nader is the next best thing. ProMinx [whoops just reread the above message] major parties will never change their toon without at third party push. Read up on US electoral history; 3rd parties presidential campaigns, while never successful, have had important influence in transforming the political debate, usually for the better. Stop listening to Gorons (What the heck is a Goron?); they haven't a clue as to how to run a good constitutional government, as the the last 8 years sadly demonstrates. 4 more years of a democrat in the white house[and republicans controling congress] and U can bet your ass we'll see more civil liberties rolled back with more 'hate crime' legislation to compensate, oh great. nip ne0-fascist-socialism in the Bud; don't vote for a major party ;0) [Edited by renots on 10-16-2000 at 03:09 PM] __________________ sorry prominx, I thought you were saying it was irresponsable to vote for Nader, when it's probably the most responsable vote anyone can make come nov 7 Mavi forum